When the Plan Changes Part 1

In this episode, we're celebrating the launch of Hope Books’ When the Plan Changes: Trusting God’s Story Over Our Own, introducing authors Ashley and Lisa and special guest Angela Amick from The Courage to Say Yes. The guests share personal examples of plans that didn’t work out—Angela abandoning Mercy Ships after meeting her future pastor husband, Lisa not attending Auburn and later valuing her path to Samford, and Ashley shifting from dolphin dreams to equine therapy. Ashley recounts a phone call warning she missed God’s blessing in a horse, God’s whisper “He will bless many,” naming the horse Jacob, and Jacob’s bond with a girl named Jenny. Lisa shares childhood trauma, Jordan’s premature birth, anger, and later life with Jordan, who has Down syndrome and pulmonary arterial hypertension. Angela describes sensing “Keep asking about her heart” while daughter Leah, who has Down syndrome, was hospitalized, prompting a cardiology consult. They discuss discerning God’s voice, advocating for special-needs children in healthcare, rapid-fire reflections on hope, and where to buy the books, plus a Facebook Live launch event.

00:00 Welcome and Book Launch

00:55 Plans That Changed

04:30 Ashley and Jacob

08:34 Lisa Childhood and Jordan

15:51 Angela Hospital Whisper

19:34 Discerning Gods Voice

26:42 Advocating in Healthcare

32:08 Rapid Fire and Hope

35:35 Closing and Next Steps